my 2 cents for what its worth.

If we were to recruit there members into illuminati there would be zero issue, so with that said i feel any negativity is just through pride in the G name (always good) or a fear of change.
The first, there is no way i/we can compare the value of a guilds name to the value of a guilds members as rafe said, so we just swell our numbers one way or the other..... its not like its the flower pansie fairy lovers guild or anything

The second, change will not be as big as we might fear, we will have the same members if we stick together, if we intergrate some of our officers great, if not, the skill we bring to this change is XP, so ultimately we will reach the same ends. All the same names and faces plus some new ones is all we're looking at?

Even though the lack of raiding hasn't effected me personally yet, its still important, as is the general comunity and friendship that a good guild brings, as long as there are no pre-pubescent fist magnets G spamming all over the place, I don't see a real big issue. we take it as the next step (even if unexpected and unplanned) in a positive move to further ourselves, and the team we work in.

Peace and love
S

now i see al this possitive reactions, I wonder why dont we move over this weekend? we can group up with them a little faster and know them?

better get it over better can be done.

If we join them we will do that before the next Karazahn reset, and besides that Michael has to explain everything to his own officers first, so we both agreed on waiting a few days before we would move over. Wich would be just after the weekend.

last night i tought things over clearly and talkd too several people and the conclusion is that i will not follow you guys in too the guild lazarus . why ? good question
well the answer is hard for me too explain but i will give it a try soo you all have an idea .
i searchd for a guild too pick off where illuminati has left before the breakdown and i found 1 . then gnat and rafe askd me too come back and i did because the (imba )druid that i am now is because of tdh and illuminati . and i resspect the guild we where all friends and like family too each other.
but now if come too a point where i ask myself "is this what i want "?
start over from zero with a new raiding guild with little khara experience even with our guild in them and the exellent raid leading of rafe and the experience of other guildies in lazarus
point is i workd reeally hard too become hardcore raider and back too khara for weeks maybe even months before everybody is geard up too do gruul is a hard decision . after long thinking i decided not too follow , but dont get me wrong i love each of you and you all can count on me when you need me . i will stay till the last day of illu and with pain in my heart i will say goodbye and good luck too all of you im not joining an other guild at this moment and gonna relax for a bit because i want too level my hunter elliosiss and grind my ass off . maybe some of youè think im loot orientated but that's not true , everybody must search in this game what they like the most and at this point i dont feel im doing that i need a bigger challenge thats all . i tried too explain it as good as i can but im not good in words .
i wish you all the best of luck in lazarus and in my opinion your all the best and you have the best admin team at your side .
i know you will make it and there's 1 thing left for me too say .
i support the decicion of the admin team in joining lazarus but that path is not meant for me much love and kissess too you all
your friend kilobyte ( joeri )
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I can understand it. It's a pitty you wont come with us,

well good luck and so on.

I agree with wijffie, good luck to you kilo and we will miss you and i hope you will follow us later.

I am sorry that we won't have your company in Lazarus. You'll be missed.

Of course, I fully respect your decision & wherever you end up, I hope you find a home where you can get most enjoyment from the game.

I just want to say thank you for the support you have given to our guild- by trying so hard to keep it going when we hit our crisis, by returning when we asked, and by being such a good, faithful and reliable member and officer.

Thanks mate.

:*( gonna miss you, GL in lvling and we still will see you.

Hi guys, I'm already in Lazarus and I'd just like to say it'll be great to see you all again.
Lazarus is just like any good guild, most members are friendly and helpful.